Outdoor Photos

Of all the stuff taught in schools never used, it would seem there would be a photography course.. seeing endless photos of blurred faces, poor color saturation, blurred faces .. ugh

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School Event pics under the Gazebo 

Under a gazebo or any shelter that has a roof but open so light comes through

Overcast .. pics wont be too bad .. but

If it is bright out when people are under a roof, the light behind em can ruin your pics
Any time the light behind people is brighter than the light falling on their face they are back lit.

1  At Rising Park
I see Soooo many pics of couples taken here in bright sun and their features are obscured.
All dressed up an event that only takes place a few times in their lives.
All their friends n family rave how beautiful.. yeah because they are loved.

2  At Rising Park
Ah ha some one knew about the magic of fill in flash.
I don't know about new phone camera flash units but most are not powerful as a dedicated digital camera flash.
Fill in means it will flash every time regardless of how light or dark it is.
The closer to people the greater effect the flash will have so you might need to go for a waist up shot to move in close.
Afternoon the sun is toward the tennis court.
Glasses can cause a reflection but having people with glasses to shift their head around a bit changes the angle the flash hits and you will get some good shots with out a reflection

3  I don't know where these guys are, just a point about light
The kids in front are well lit, the roof is not putting their faces in the shade. In back the eyes can not be seen.. poor color saturation and detail

4  Don't know where this pic was taken but
Overcast and the kids came out from under the roof where the faces are well exposed.

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Check the weather map
If you want to stand on top of Mt P with the city behind you, the best time is before 10 so you are not back lit or use fill in light

PHOTOS ON TOP ANY TIME OF THE DAY
If the sun is not shinning through.. cloudy, you can get good pics on Mt P with Lancaster in the background

SUNNY DAY PICS ON MT P
If you want to stand on Mt P with Lancaster in the background
*  Before 10 AM you are good
*  Midday the sun will cause harsh shadows, turn your back to the sun and have the photographer get close and use fill in flash

*  IF it is a bit warm out, the climb will make you a bit red and likely perspire. Walk up about an hour before and have a handkerchief to blot.

*  After noon back of peoples head toward the fairground, photograph on top with them, move in and use flash

*  After noon people facing the fairground, photographer with a powerful telephoto down on the fairgrounds shooting people on top.

STANDING UNDER TREES
*  Standing under trees, overcast is ok but if the sun is filtering through the trees there will be cobweb shadows on those you are taking pics of. Move em to solid shade.

When you take pics of groups in spotty shade some faces will be hard to see.

Maybe the photography club could create a short course of outdoor photography n students could do a short trip.
(Day selected by checking the weather forecast)

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Gazebo pics

How pics have I seen of people getting pics under the gazebo where their faces are hidden in the shadow.

The lights on your camera phones are not very powerful so you have to be close. Go after the waist to the top of the head.
The light will bring out their eyes and give the face good color saturation

Just try it on a sunny day, put some pals under the gazebo while they r n the shade, move in close and take one pic with and one pic with out fill n flash .. digital camera or phone  
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Sunsets

Almost any day of the year you can walk up n find couples, friends n families looking over our turf.
You can decrease the contrast a bit n make the sky orange but you must use flash
The effect that flash will have depends on distance. Move in and frame em from the waist up. Make sure the sun is peeking behind them.. they don't cover it. Move in and out a bit taking a couple shots. Pick the best n delete the rest :)  

Here I compared flash n no flash with these guys. When the light is brighter behind someone their face becomes kind of a silhouette.

These two pics were taken seconds apart. Flash makes the difference between muddy shots or great color saturation and sparkling eyes.
Think waist to the top of the head shot. You can adjust the effect of the flash by moving closer or further away.. with a new digital camera you can use your flash compensation.

Dealing with glare, sunglasses take em off, regular glasses have your person keep looking at the camera but moving their head up, down, right, left slightly n one of the pics should have no glare. 
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NIGHT PICS

You can get super nice shots from Mt P.

At fair time or after dark with the city lights, you can get great people pics, but you have to use your phone light or camera flash to make the magic work ...

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They painted numbers on the post, this spot is at post 32.
Standing at this location is a rock a little higher then the rest.
Having your people just on the other side of the rail you will have a downward view ... great shot

Google map n GPS

If it is overcast, tilt the camera down to avoid the sky and use flash
Remove hats.. hoods n if it is a bit windy place any long hair persons so their hair is not flying in the faces of their pals.

Get em to remove any sun glasses, if they have regular glasses have em move their heads n slightly different directions while looking at the camera
.. and USE FLASH

Some like to walk out toward the edge but just let em duck under the rail so they are just on the other side. Some of em r like chipmunks sitting on the edge.. keep em close to the rail.

Standing on my favorite spot it was afternoon n I turned their faces from the sun. Because the light behind them was brighter than the light falling on their faces their faces would have been in a bit of a shadow.
Having them move close I turned the flash all the way up n produced great color saturation n made their eyes sparkle.

Your phones use LEDs (I guess) so it is a constant light. The closer any light flash/led is the greater the effect.
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Light causes your eyes to close down a bit. If you are using a phone camera.. I guess it is not a flash.. so
But if you use a flash, it will do it's job before you have a chance to squint.
Glasses/reflective surfaces are a bit of a problem but you can get pretty good shots any way.

When people wear sun glasses ask em to put them on top of their head.
When you are at the park there will be other visitors near. Instead of trying to get a selfie with your pals, just ask someone to take.. 3 shots... one will be the best one :)

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Pics I have taken at RP

Sunset Video

Sunrise Video

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So close a cool place to get pets for my Pup n pics on my photo safari's. As soon as I get home I share my photos on facebook.

Sony a65, 600mm Tamon and tripod (Oct 9, 2018)

There are dozens of Rising Park websites and facebook groups just like mine. My Google Map with a few of my favorites.

A few Others ... click on their photo links

https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/risingpark/

https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/633649713493209/mt-pleasant-in-rising-park/

Rising Park on Google Maps


Rising Park offical facebook page

Mt Pleasant in Rising Park

Rising Park Paper Mill

Rising Park ...

etc.. hundreds of sites just like mine and thousands upon thousands of photos just like mine on social media.
Such a great place to photograph n get pets for your pups :)

Moon over Mount Pleasant

https://www.risingpark.com/2018/03/06.html

 A question for your science or astronomy teacher

In the last years I have tried to photograph Mount Pleasant through out the seasons.

I have captured some great sunsets from the top and not so good photos of the sun rising behind Mount Pleasant

I saw a snap shot someone took of the moon over Mount Pleasant while driving down Broad Street.

There must be several days a year when you can stand in the fairgrounds parking lot (by Broad Street) and view the moon passing over the top of Mount Pleasant

Standing here

Fairgrounds parking lot

39.725986495904706, -82.60309285477342

Looking 'east' to

39.7250788081665, -82.5950354988868

Mount Pleasant

The object is capturing the moon coming up directly behind Mount Pleasant from the place you are standing. In the fairground parking lot this only takes place a couple times a year.

Three tries, once it did not come out, the second time big dark clouds came over just as it was rising and this time (2021) I thought perfect but it was so bright the camera flare .. ugh.

I can capture great sunsets.. but I think to get a sunrise the sky must have a thin layer of clouds over it.. maybe try next year 😉

Another location might be on the hill at Forest Rose if you could get in there after dark

I am guessing there is  software or a chart that predicts such things

I would like to stand in the parking lot and capture the moon moving over top of the mountain

Is there any days of the year when the moon takes that path and if so what time  would the moon  be visible in that path

the tripod would be by Broad Street or at Forest Rose.

Just pretend like you were planning to photograph the moon moving over Mt P, what day and time would you set up your tripod?

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Photopills

Photo pills Moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-n7y9ud6g 

There are so many beautiful things to photograph outside the earth and there are things on earth that are to be photographed.

Things on earth to be photographed with the moon in the background (Mount Pleasant in Rising Park)

Load Google Earth

https://earth.google.com/web/search/mount+pleasant+in+rising+park/@39.72448812,-82.59859387,257.05829813a,999.7007584d,35y,359.99999999h,0t,0r/data=CigiJgokCXVPyqH82kNAEYdbdONF2UNAGU9313LOpVTAIYEgkTsAp1TA 

* Click on 2D

You need to know the height of this thing 

*  When it loads move the cursor over Mount Pleasant until you see the highest number there (bottom right) 333

* Drag the little man to Broad Street and move the map around

You need to find a place to view the thing to be photographed with out any obstructions. (Fairgrounds parking lot by Broad Street)

* Drag the little man over to Broad Street to get the street view.

* Move the map around to look toward Mount Pleasant.

Note from the parking lot there is nothing to obstruct the view of Mt Pleasant

*  On Photopills press on an area near Broad Street and the red pin will move there.

You need to know the elevation of the place the tripod will set

*  Move the cursor over near Broad Street and keep track of the elevation (lower right) 255

Icons bright = on, dim = off

* Click on planner

* At the top swipe to see them then reset all icons to make them dim -

 Only the red pin is visible on the map

* Click on the load button at the bottom 

[Search address]

*  Type Rising Park

*  When you see one In Lancaster Ohio, poke it

Bottom of the screen

* Click Load

* Begin to type rising park and when you see the one in Lancaster Ohio, poke it.

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Mount Pleasant, Rising Park, Lancaster Ohio, Photos, Maps

Tripod

This is not a park gadget.

 I love photography and it is my own experiment with ideas to promote  Mount Pleasant and photo ideas. 😂 

If you would like to invite your pack to meet on 

Mt Pleasant  This page will let you share an invitation 

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Using the wood slots below  the red arrow.

Pick the slot that your camera fits in
Turn the camera horizontally so the lens is out.

Line up your pals making room for yourself

Turn on the timer and jump in the shot

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 If you take pics with this gadget or your own and want to share them on Instagram, use the tag #risingpark.

I see so many people trying to do pics with their pals sticking out their arms or sometimes putting their phones on the ground like THIS, so I was inspired to think of some gadget to hold phones .

To get the best photos with your gang, I figure is just ask another visitor there if they will take your pic together. Do 5, one will be better than all the rest.

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Depending the day of the year, the sun can set to the extreme left or right. I created a map HERE that will put you in the ball park. 

I have managed to get Mount Pleasant on Google Maps.
There are so many Mount Pleasants when it is typed in.. ugh so I got them to list it as Mount Pleasant in Rising Park.

You can write your review on the map and post a couple of your best photos if you get froggy HERE. The bright orange line is where it vanishes.

* If it is hot or bright, bring sun glasses and something to blot the perspiration from faces 😋

*  As the sun goes down, point the camera away to that background and put your subject in it.

*  On the descent it will get dimmer and a darker color, that is when to put your subject in front of it and use flash.

* After it goes down.. not dark there will be a colorful band of color. My favorite time to take people's pic and use fill in flash.

I did a video of where the sun sets through out the year (dark orange line) HERE 

Locals come to Mt Pleasant a lot and I see many from a distances. They post their pics but are never there the same time as their pals.
At the bottom here are a couple small icons. You can share this page on twitter or facebook by clicking on them.

When to come, I would suggest the 3rd week end in June.

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Previous tripod attempts.. 

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To share this page:

Click the f  or t icon below to share this page.

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Capturing a sunrise

There are endless beautiful photos and videos of sunsets on Mt. P. but no great sunrise images/videos.

Who will help the little red hen this year :)

 

With the virus thing gone on there might not be a problem if several were there at a distance as long as they did not get in the view of other's camera.

Oct 13th 2020 standing in one of these spots, the sun should appear directly behind Mt. P. and drift to the right coming up.

http://www.risingpark.com/2018/03/capturing-sunrise.html 

#risingpark

 

There are a couple weeks in the spring and in the fall that the sun will come up directly behind Mt. Pleasant if you are standing in the fairgrounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ8Kj50_5q8

 

2020 I will try to capture a sunrise once more. In the last try a plane left a jet stream in front of it and then a cloud swallowed the sun.

 

The weather prediction. There is not supposed to be clouds but I wonder if they might make the sky more colorful

 

There is a light pole where the pin is so the tripods will need to be just in front.

Standing on Mt. P. the area in the parking lot is where I will set up. I would like to set another on the race track so no runners, cars could get in the shots, but only me n someone might take the tripod n camera.

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This is the sun setting from my photo on top of Mt. P. I used a telephoto to make it larger.

 

 

I was about a week early when taking this shot. You see the sun came up to the left instead of directly in the center.

*  Small apertures seem to give the star burst effect

 

*  Shooting manual focus, the camera will not continue to attempt to focus and eat the battery/

 

*  People/cars might get in the videos, but if you use time lapse they can be eliminated with a trick.. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaKH8Bfink 

 

  

Email I sent to an app guy

 

Oct 13th
Lancaster Ohio
39°43'30.6"N 82°35'42.2"W
39.725164, -82.595068

1 how long is it from the top of the sun first appears above the horizon till the bottom of the sun appears
 

2 To capture the sunrise, at what intervals should the camera take pics
Just a ball park guess
 

Stephen (Crookneck Apps)
Hi Buddy,
1) The sun is approximately 0.5 degrees in diameter. Given that day is 24 hours for ~360 degrees of rotation (more or less), then the time would be approximately (24 * 60 * 60) * (0.5/360) seconds = 120s. Of course, that assumes the sun moves only upwards from the horizon and ignores the effect of refraction (which changes as the sun rises), but it's a close enough rough number.

2) That would all depend on what you were trying to accomplish. Are you looking to do a time-lapse series? Or just get one great shot? If a series, do you want to the sun to overlap? Or do you want a visible gap between each image of the sun?
Assuming a time lapse series, I'd say just shoot every 15 seconds and composite the results in post production as you want them. I should say I've never done that myself in any rigorous way, so others may have better advice.

Some timelapse clips https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sunrise+tripod

Memorials at Rising Park

One night I went to catch a sunset, I saw this paper with a rock holding it down.. thought it was a girlfriend note at first ... but

A few times I have seen people having services. On this night this family was releasing this balloon. Found out I went to high school with em.

A while back I joined the Lancaster Ohio High School Alumni that shares events, photos and the passing of classmates. Last year at graduation I thought of the little girl that would have graduated but for the accident.
Who would you like to share a memory of or how might you want to be remembered?

Through out the park there are many trees with people's names on them.
Benches and bricks with loved one's names on them.

Not just individuals or families but company names too.
Family memorials and company contributors.

Most people don't know what goes on at the park unless they read it in social media.

Much bigger than a bench, this giant piece of concrete was put here for mountain climbers to scale .. and no complaints :)
Dedicated park benches and such already exist through out the park.

If you wanted to plant a memorial tree or add a marker... bench.. the Friends of the Park does that HERE.

Instead of a marker with text, it could contain a QR code. Anyone wanting to check the marker out could view their photos, videos .. a visit of their lives

With all the markers at the park, if some future generation wanted to find one of their family members it would be tough.
I thought some group like the scouts might take on the project with gps and record names.
Names and locations to create a park docket of markers and create an internet file in alphabetical order. 

The park is peppered with memorial markers.. but words only.

Just names.. hmmm no I am thinking family members might be able to add a photo of their loved ones at play if they had one.
The thought that the names on markers be placed in a searchable page and it would lead to a page with pics of the person n maybe a little bio of em.
Belonging to a group here that post about obituaries I see lots of people I went to school with and one of them was buried at Forest Rose. I go there sometimes to take pics of Mt Pleasant from the high place and wondered if I had ever walked by his grave.
After people are lost on occasion they are mentioned for a bit, some things about them, but what might they want known about themselves? I suppose if they shared their thoughts while they were still kicking and their marker was placed in the park, others might share their legacy through photos n videos. 

Me thinking a memorial registry with links to pics to put a face on those being remembered.. hmmmm


On top people can sit on the rocks or stand up against the rail. I imagined this would be a nice place for a bench in memory of the little girl who fell . Of course it would need to be turned a bit for the sunset and the park board would need to approve it..  ... 

Below in the playground area, people place bricks with the names of loved ones as memorials.
Families contact "the friends of the park" and have bricks with the names of their loved ones placed here.

hmmm thinking if bricks with the names of lost pets were placed around the bench on top of Mt. P. , it would continue to expand.. maybe make a sidewalk to the path coming up :)
Of course similar type bricks, ground prep n names on bricks would be paid for in the memorial brick cost.
Those who love their fuzz balls, pay lots of money in memorials and such.
In this area on top, I would like to see a bench on this spot..

The library might have more pics I have heard there was a building where the pipe stands and saw this pic of a windmill.

My imagination never stopping I thought wonder if the park placed a sign there like at hocking hills or endless other parks.
I own the domain risingpark.com but they can have it or get one of their own.

That one link would open up endless web pages, how to get a great photo, history of the park, geology, a guest book where visitors could sign their names and add photos of their visits.

In high school, classes spend hours in drafting and art on things that will never become anything, but it might be fun for them to design what this marker would look like .

The pipe shouldn't be bare.

Instead of people bricks, people who loved their pups might donate a brick for their pups beginning at the pipe then creating a path above to avoid the mud when it rains.

In the years I have been coming up there have been a few big trees growing on the edge that fell over and now there are areas where they are hiding the view. I don't know what it is but there is an ever green bush on my property that does not get very high but is very tough .. don't know who would get out there to plant it 😕

I have seen a couple videos of rope training on Mt P.

Rising Park, Mount Pleasant #risingpark, Lancaster Ohio, PuppyDog
 





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Hill or Mountain

A hill is a piece of land that rises higher than everything surrounding it. ... But, like a mountain, a hill will usually have an obvious summit, which is its highest point. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, there is no official difference between hills and mountains.

Sometimes I go to Forest Rose on the hill to take pics of Mt Pleasant and just had the thought there are other places just as high.
Mount Pleasant is a summit located in Fairfield County, OH at N39.72479° W82.59405° (NAD83) and at an elevation of 1079 ft MSL.


Fairfield County's highest elevation is 391 meters (1,283 feet) which ranks it 51st in terms of highest elevations when compared to a total of 88 counties in Ohio.

So why is it referred to as "Mount" Pleasant?

The difference in it and any hill around the county is erosion which stripped the dirt and exposed the rock face.

It is because of the shear drop off and the view. Unlike being on a hill with a gradual drop off and a bunch of trees in the view.. it is the bird's eye and danger element that draws people here.

When it comes to the beauty of exposed rocks, mostly locals take pics of it or the paper.
In the years that I came to specifically take pics of the face, there were no others.
People do not come here from surrounding counties, states or countries and sit in the fairgrounds to gaze at Mt P, but they come here in droves, through out the seasons and generations to sit on the rocks, lean on the rail and gaze over the turf.

There is something about being up high... king of the mountain :)
Communities through out the US.. the world spend great amounts to build observations and visitors come in droves for the view.
Me thinking Mt Pleasant would be a super spot to build an observation tower and sky lab
(Mt Pleasant is not the highest place in Fairfield County. Looks like it is near Amanda where the WHOK tower is built )

Rainy day thoughts b4 the grind stone.... Dec 1, 2018 

RP History

Rising Park Historians

Most facebook groups include nostalgic talk and we have dedicated county history.

There are rising park books and information all over the internet.

Those who know a bit about webs and domains. Looking at domain auction pages, some are sold for hundreds.. thousands.

.coms being super hot.
A few years I bought risingpark.com 

My main interest is Mount Pleasant but I thought .. what if
What if you combined your research to create an rising park encyclopedia.

There are endless repeats of the same info from one book or website. There would be a need to organize info.

Collect and sort photos, maybe entries could be placed by dates.

Mount Pleasant/Rising park has a great interest of those who lived here and looking up the key words rising park or mount pleasant.. you also.

It would take those who knew how to organize things. You have many proof readers. 
Jumping around topic to topic is fun, but you could create a master piece I am thinking .

 

If you have old film photos of Rising Park or Mount Pleasant you can share them ..

Lighting Mt P

Much to do about nothing :)
I must b a swami.. just as I said, they would make a big event of the lighting then after that no one would pay any attention to it.
They had the lights on tonight and no one was in the fairgrounds or along the street looking at the lit face from mt p.

The early pics they took must have been enhanced because it was very dull from the fairgrounds (two people were visible on top)
Believe no one. Some night there are no events going on and the lights are on, stand over in the corner of the fairgrounds and take your own pic.
The only thing different in appearance is at night it is sandwiched between the darker background. The rock surface is the same.
Seeing the comments that it is beautiful .. appealing, attractive...

Pic that I took above

The people saying it is beautiful remind me of the story of the emperor's magic clothes.. jumping on the band wagon, pretending to see what does not exist in their own minds

Things people find with such qualities are attracted to ... drawn to it. of the thousands who clamored for it, none were there June 14th.

As I said light has a very rapid fall off at distance, I drove over to the other side of the fairgrounds and there was not enough light for the camera to focus, drove over to the dairy queen down the street and it would not even appear in my viewfinder

I drove around and could hardly find a place where it was visible..
No one looking at the face of mt p from the ground but when I walked up there were 27 people on top in about an hours time.
I took their pics from the fairgrounds and with their camera I took pics for 3 people.. pals

Didn't get up in time to catch the sunset but did capture the orange sky using a 600mm tele.

NO ONE was standing on the ground gazing at Mt P, no one was on the ground socializing with pals, but everyone who came to Mt P, were gathered ON TOP.. One of the shots:
Others not visible were in hammocks back in the tree line.

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My conclusions after the lights were erected and turned on before I saw them myself. :

Conclusions
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December 2018, the lights arrived and are erected

The lights are not colored as rumors stated, I guess they would be like those in a ball field.

The initial setup was not paid for by the tax payers. How long that could last in the future?

The lights will not bother wild life. There are birds and critters all over the city. If you have a yard .. if you have a big night light they are living all around you.
If there were any animals that sleep at night, those spotlights will prevent that, but they will just move to a different area.

In bug season in the day time you will splatter some, but after dark driving with your headlights on the front of your car and windshield are plastered with the suckers. Just my guess but what do you figure those spotlights will do to stir up the infestation of misquotes, moths, ticks .. bugs :)

What % of the population will the lights be visible to.
If you live right on Columbus or Fair in these areas it will be visible, but if you live one street behind Columbus or Fair, the houses in front will block the view for most. The red area is the no see lighted rocks.

 This a city map of Lancaster, the red x is close to the spot where the face is lit. The lights will not be visible to 95% of the city population?
Where ever you live if you can not see Mt P in broad daylight, these lights will not be visible to you after dark.

 One of the two lights they will use to light up the face of Mt P.'





I took the pic from the ground side because it was afternoon and if you shoot into the sun, sun flare bad pic

When I got on top the lights were backlit by the sunset so.. didn't fool with em.. stayed there a bit and when I got down to the truck a car load of couples got out and had blankets with em.
If you studied a bit of photography or art there needs to be highlights, mid tones and shadows. These lights are positioned so it is flat lighting.. not creative lighting.


Lighting a  big event? It was a staged gathering promoted by politicians, published in newspapers and those who jumped on board. We will see what % of the population drives over to the fairground when there is no media blitz. 

With no politicians involved, with out any promotion ... people just deciding to walk up the trail to stand on top with their pals: 
On decent nights of the year people just walk up the trail for the sunset and some linger to gaze over our turf with the city lights.
When there is no promotion by those involved and the lights are turned, then you might make note of how many people go over the fairgrounds to look at the lighted rocks :)




First photos at the time they did the official lighting. Either the photos where pshopped or they had other lights at the fairground. It looks nothing like this in the pics I took and there was NO one looking at the face when lit in when I took my photos.

In this particular photo the foreground is lit by lights from the fairgrounds, not the light on the poles.. the building n fence the sidewalk... so this is not what it would look like alone... guessing it was enhanced with photoshop. If I see it is gonna happen, I will drive around town and do pics of what it looks like.
(Top pic when I finally took it)

On nice nights I lingered a few minutes after the sun went down with a big orange sky and see the pups just coming up with their blankets to sit on and sometimes bring food.. just to sit there and gaze over the city lights.
If anyone makes it to the top when those lights are blasting, they will be like a deer looking into headlight.

Here is what they would see with out the lights blasting

Guess they even used fireworks to bring attention to it but I did not know about it till 3 weeks later when I searched Google to see if there was any new info.. then I posted it on facebook and no one knew about them lighting it till I posted it :)

If they continue to use fireworks, how many do you figure will be stopped from coming up on top or will be ran off ?

It is against the law to burn outside from 6 at night till 6 in the morning because of potential fires.
Fireworks embers can exceed 1200 degrees and here they are putting them off over old dry rotten wood and dry leaves at mt p.
What they write on Google
Fireworks by the numbers. Fireworks start an average of 18,500 fires per year, including 1,300 structure fires, 300 vehicle fires, and 16,900 outside and other fires

Had a spotter on Broad St.. closes as you can get to a birds eye view and they didn't even notice the lights.

Guess the only people who will notice are people at the fairgrounds for someother event, maybe cars passing by .. only for a few seconds between trees and people who live on two streets  with their house facing Mt P :)

"Oh it is beautiful" The only way anyone will see it as in these photos, is to make a special trip to sit or stand in the fairgrounds.

Guess you could bring lawn chairs and sit there n look at the lighted rocks  :)

I don't think the caper will do any thing to draw attention to Lancaster. Unless they read about it in the paper or on social media, people will be oblivious to it's existence :)
What % of people will be able to see the face when it is lit up?
* Walk out of your house in the daytime and look that direction. If you can not see it in the day time, you can not see it after dark.
*  When it is lit up, get someone to jump in the car with you and drive around and note how many places you can or can not see it.


Pics of Mt P from the fairgrounds, Pics from the top of Mt P and pics inside the park. Thousands of pics are taken in the park just like any other park. Opinion: people do NOT travel to Lancaster from other counties, states or countries to do normal park things.

THE VIEW

It is NOT the face of Mt. P that draws people from our county, other counties or states. Hills here are just as high. The only thing that makes this one different is that erosion has exposed the rock face.
Who takes pics of the face of Mt P, some like me or if they are in the fairgrounds for something else, they capture the face and there are lots of beautiful photos.

The draw that brings people to Mt P to take photos, is the view they see from sitting or standing on top. My opinion? I have viewed multiple other sites of rising park. Here is an Instagram link. How many say look at us with Mt in the background.. How many say look at us on top of Mt P taking pics :)

Last month I walked up with Kookie because it was a sunny day.. leaning on the rail, I saw a woman coming up alone.. she walked over toward the edge, took a selfie with the city in the background, turned around and walked back down.

"Here I am on Mt P "

The only encounter with Mt P that many have had was to drive by it or see it from pics others took.

When people go to the fair in the fall, Mt P is right there in all of its splendid fall colors, but thousands do not pay any attention to it... "So beautiful" and yet they do not take photographs of it... :)
The next time you go to the fair look to find how many families, friends are standing looking toward the face of Mt P for 5, 10 minutes or an hour ... then look on top of Mt P and make note if there are any sitting/standing there soaking in that view :)

Though I have seen a few thousand pics of Mt. P, my own are the only ones that used Mt P as a backdrop

... with a couple people I knew and just a couple walking by asking em to do their pic. Depth of field is the task, keeping people and the background in focus.
When people think something is beautiful or iconic they will take endless photos of themselves with it in the background.
If you thought Mt P is so beautiful, where are your photos like this before March 2019?
If you are inspired to take such a photo wait till near sunset on a clear day. Mt P will have an orange glow. Use the camera light and the smallest f stop.

For many I figure like the old grandstand people are oblivious to it until it became the topic of conversation then they jumped on the interest boat.
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IF you are one of those who made a trip for the view

* How much time have you spent in the fairgrounds looking at Mt P and taking pics of  it from the ground.

*  How much time have spent on top viewing, taking photos?
What is the visual draw that brings visitors to Mt. P.

Just something cool about being on top. They purpose here, they bring a lunch here n the last couple years they have bringing hammocks to hang on trees. They come with their babies and pups .. it is this view from the top of Mt P and nothing else that is the magnet to this park.

Kids young and old come here to stand on Mt P to look over the turf below.

Friends come and they come alone

 The come with their pups and their best sidekicks

 They come from out of state and different countries, by the thousands they come to stand on top of Mt P.. year after year.

In the years I have returned to take photos I have never seen anyone coming from any where to stand at the fairgrounds and look at the face of Mt P.

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What did they have in mind in the first place? The only thing I can think is they thought it would create status for Lancaster?

... The thought of a woman I saw at Utica Park when I was a pup. Viola couldn't ride a bike, but she bought a new English bike and taped dollar bills to the spokes and walked around pushing it.  Something that can't be used.. look at us, aint we cool :) ... hmmm

In a facebook thread if they do not delete it, you can read through what people were saying after it was lit HERE.
Checking back in June at the bottom of the thread it states "some comments may have been filtered out" Like mine :)
If the mayor thread is still copy that pic and drive over to the fairground when no events are going on, take your own pic and look at the lighting.

SUNSETS ON MT P

Though I live on top of a hill I can not watch a sunset or a sunrise because of the trees.. winter here, invisible when there are leaves.

Because of the erosion, the face of Mt. P. has a clear view of the horizon and this brings people up the trail to watch the sunsets.
I usually just took stills but one night when something was going on with me, I figured I would capture one cool sunset video.
Capturing a plane flying over the sun just before it set.

It is magic to watch people watching the sunset and hearing their chatter.

 The cover pic.. later that summer, taken when the eclipse took place.

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The building of a live webcam on top of Mt P would bring interactive park visitors from near and far, and allow people to share the view at home or where ever they were.

The daydream is HERE





No reason to read on, just leaving my original words, so not to be a revisionist of the initial beliefs.
BELOW WERE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS FROM WHAT I READ ON FB.
Some of it was wrong, but I nailed some of it.

The summer of 2018 my only knowledge was what fb people wrote and then my conclusions

I never knew anything about it until after everything was said and done. I began with my thoughts from my hearsay info. Leaving my original post so there is no squirming or revising of things I wrote.
At the bottom I make my conclusion after it was up and working.

I update this page

when I find out new info

RISING PARK / MOUNT PLEASANT

HEART OF FAIRFIELD COUNTY

Though it is the "Lancaster City Park" in reality people from every high school in the county, families from every township and people from every county around come here to stand and look over our turf. 

How many photos of people standing on Mount Pleasant on facebook, twitter, Instagram. 

A magic place that has brought generation after generation here for over a century.

I thought lighting Mt P was fake news someone started and was having a fun time with. I didn't pay any attention until I looked and saw it in the local newspaper :(

Here is a petition to nip the lighting idea in the bud (not mine, I have other counter arguments).
You don't have to still live here to get involved. If you have family n friends here, just share the link below.
When the lit rock face is first finished, it will be a novelty for a short time then be common ... Like an elephant in the room but they can never stop paying for it.

A background in photography will give you an idea of what happens with light.
Either projected or reflected light has a dramatic fall off.
Take 4 people out in the yard at dark, space them 10' apart and take a flash pic of them.
No matter how bright the lights are a few blocks away.. the light will diminish in intensity according to the inverse square law.

But the light seen will not be projected, the light from the face of Mt P will be reflected from a jagged dull surface losing most of the intensity. If  standing on top looking toward the lights ouch but light reflected from a couple thousand feet away..

I guess they could hire a spotlight to sit at the fairgrounds for a night and tell people to look toward Mt P :)
Colored light will still be much dimmer than clear light.

Standing on Mt. P. during the day you would just see the two telephone poles (wood or metal ?) and the battery of lights.
The prime time to get cool sunset pics is just a bit before it sinks
The lights would be below the skyline but if on they would give your camera lens flare.

Ball stadiums are pretty well lit so the effect of spotlights are not a big factor but if you were standing in the dark with bright lights pointed in your direction.. Bottom car headlights

The lights to be mounted on two 60 ft poles behind the superintendents house.

The light people see will not be projected but reflected.
It will not be laser lights but normal lights that means the intensity will fall off at a high rate.. become dimmer with distance.
The lighted area would only be visible at night.

Creative lighting needs a smooth reflective surface but the face of Mt P is broken edges and a drab color.

It will only be visible to a small area of the population
Those living a street over from Fair can not see it unless they have a window above the other houses
You couldn't see it from Memorial Drive. Can't see it in the park. At a distance on the west side the face is visible
The streets highlighted in blue are the only "close" areas where the face can see unobstructed.

Have you ever driven around to see Christmas lights.. wonder if people had them on every day of the year.

Anyone who comes to see the lighted rocks are more likely to come just because of it being in the media.. We drove 20 miles to come to look at colored rocks after dark .. hmmm :)

"An anonymous party wants to pay for the lighting"
Hmmmm, would it be someone like a real estate company who thinks it would serve as a bill board bringing them business?
Maybe doesn't want angry people to know who they are?
What is secret why the "generous" Santa wants to be unknown?
"Next to see if a group of private citizens can raise funds to meet our parameters"
Not sure who the 'donor' or private citizens might be but I suppose it being something the city government is involved in, anyone who wanted to know could find out through the freedom of information act..  

"$40,000 for the project, plus another $20,000 escrow fund ..."

Face it, how many local people or people from out of town are going to come to drive by to look at lighted rocks.
Will it bring any thing to our economy, will it entertain any amount of people?

Can you imagine people saying lets take a ride and look at the colored rocks. If they did, where would they have to go?

Drive around town on different streets looking at the direction of Mt P and look to see if you can see the rock face :)

Notice how when you are walking down a sidewalk at night and oncoming car's headlights approach. Things in back of the lights become invisible.

If you have ever stood on Mt P after dark, imagine what your view of the city would be like with colored spot lights pointed at your eyes .

TAX DOLLARS

Mistake .. they will not use taxes. It seems to be coming from donations and people are shoving their idea on the community .. like it or not.

Why would "public reps"  permit something  the community   will not benefit from but will offend many?

The board distances themselves from  Mr big pockets and a group of citizens who are doing this.. The board has nothing to do with it?

* Who is directly responsible for giving the permission to plant 60' poles with spot lights for years to come?

* When it begins to happen will no park employee be involved after that or will paid??? park employees continue to be involved from now on?

* Is the signature of any park/city employees on the contract with those who will preform the work.

*  Who is business deal between.. signatures on the contracts:
a) The contractors and the contributor/group of citizens
b) The contractors and the park employees


Kick backs? No, guessing they just got pulled into something silly, with good intentions :)
Tax dollars or gold from leprechauns, where ever the money will come from, you know
a)  Those who contract the job are going to make a big pile of money.
b)  It is the park pals who are directly responsible for them getting that contract.
c)  Were open bids published for others to bid on the job?

Now that they made their commitment there is no backing out to save face so they will push hard to get it done.. thinking all done now too bad.
I think this is just a splinter that will fester and grow in to on going contempt... 

What ever happens, it should be the community, not a committee of a few paid employees that should decide. 
Maybe members of the Rising Family should have a say in the matter... 

They made a commitment they will not have the lights on during migrating season.
They care about wild life.. birds so they won't have the lights on during migration ..

*  Migrating birds are diurnal which means they are active during daylight and rest at dark.
They wouldn't turn the lights on till dark so the birds would be nesting in the trees till daylight.

Maybe these boys know about some migrating night flying bird I have never heard of :)
*  Aren't their cities with bright lights? During migration do they end up with a bunch of dead birds?
Their not turning the lights on because of birds... nothing but a crock .
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When I first saw the post about lighting Mount Pleasant, I didn't pay any attention.. thinking it was fake news.

"Public servants"  seem to do exactly what THEY WANT" in spite of the will of the community.

Guess people can be docile and remain silent or use their own imagination. 

THE BOTTOM PUNCH LINE

.. "The parameters are basically non-negotiable.
The board reserves the right to establish additional parameters if it needs to"
So after they get past the first maze THE BOARD has the right to make up anything they want.

I don't usually sign petitions .. not knowing if it is a trick but when I saw this one, I read what those who signed it were saying.. and know a few of them.
HERE IS THE PETITION YOU CAN READ WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING. 

A much better idea that would bring visitors to Lancaster and share the view of Mount Pleasant to people anywhere would be a live web cam.

No matter what projects some want to happen, there will always be opposition. Things seem great at first but the negative comes out. Both sides might read the arguments of the opposite side and then decide again.
Kind of like a tattoo, once it is done, you r stuck with it :) 

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Mount Pleasant, Rising Park, Lancaster Ohio, Photos